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I, Too, Will Accept Rush Limbaugh’s Apology

Having issued a written non-apology on Saturday, Rush Limbaugh went on air today and again apologized.  In an attempt to minimize the damage of his three-day, nine-hour rant against Sandra Fluke, Limbaugh said the following:

But this is the mistake I made. In fighting them on this issue last week, I became like them. Against my own instincts, against my own knowledge, against everything I know to be right and wrong, I descended to their level when I used those two words to describe Sandra Fluke. That was my error. I became like them, and I feel very badly about that. I’ve always tried to maintain a very high degree of integrity and independence on this program. Nevertheless, those two words were inappropriate, they were uncalled for, they distracted from the point that I was actually trying to make, and I again sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for using those two words to describe her.

I do not think she is either of those two words. I did not think last week that she is either of those two words. The apology to her over the weekend was sincere. It was simply for using inappropriate words in a way I never do, and in so doing I became like the people we oppose.

Sandra Fluke has already stated that she does not accept Rush Limbaugh’s apology because it is borne of pressure from advertisers and not sincerity.

But forget about her.

A more important figure at the center of the story has decided — quite graciously, indeed — to accept Rush Limbaugh’s apology.

That person — whose judgment about Limbaugh’s apology is absolutely crucial to any fair discussion of Limbaugh’s sins — is Mitt Romney.  During an appearance on The Sean Hannity’s Shitshow, Romney accepted Limbaugh’s apology and then followed Limbaugh’s lead, claiming that the real problem is that liberals spew venom.  Classic.

Thus, my announcement: Romney has inspired me to follow his lead.  I, too, will forgive Rush Limbaugh for using “those two words to describe Sandra Fluke,” if Rush Limbaugh will answer me one teensy tiny question about the following:

From John Cole:

Rush Limbaugh spent three days calling some unknown law student a slut and a prostitute. Not once. Not twice. Not three times. Fifty-three times, to be exact:

1) “testifies she’s having so much sex she can’t afford her own birth control pills and she agrees that Obama should provide them, or the Pope”

2) “they’re having so much sex they can’t afford the birth control pills!”

3) “essentially says that she must be paid to have sex, what does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. She wants to be paid to have sex. She’s having so much sex she can’t afford the contraception. She wants you and me and the taxpayers to pay her to have sex.”

4) “Sandra Fluke. So much sex going on, they can’t afford birth control pills.”

March 1, 2012:

5) “You’d call ‘em a slut, a prostitute”

6) “she’s having so much sex”

7) “are having so much sex that they’re going broke”

8) “they want to have sex any time, as many times and as often as they want, with as many partners as they want”

9) “the sexual habits of female law students at Georgetown”

10) “are having so much sex that they’re going broke”

11) “having so much sex that it’s hard to make ends meet”

12) “four out of every ten co-eds are having so much sex that it’s hard to make ends meet”

13) “Now, what does that make her? She wants us to buy her sex.”

14) “to pay for these co-eds to have sex”

15) “she and her co-ed classmates are having sex nearly three times a day for three years straight, apparently these deadbeat boyfriends or random hookups that these babes are encountering here, having sex with nearly three times a day”

16) “Therefore we are paying her to have sex. Therefore we are paying her for having sex.”

17) “Have you ever heard of not having sex so often?”

18) “Ms. Fluke and the rest of you feminazis, here’s the deal: If we are going to pay for your contraceptives and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it. And I’ll tell you what it is. We want you to post the videos online so we can all watch.”

19) “we want something in return, Ms. Fluke: And that would be the videos of all this sex posted online so we can see what we are getting for our money.”

20) “’If we’re paying for this, it makes these women sluts, prostitutes.’ And what else could it be?”

21) “essentially says that she must be paid to have sex. What does that make her? It makes her a slut, right?”

22) “I’m having sex so damn much, I’m going broke.”

23) “She’s having so much sex that she’s going broke! There’s no question about her virtue.”

24) “having so much sex she’s going broke at Georgetown Law.”

25) “Here’s a woman exercising no self-control. The fact that she wants to have repeated, never-ending, as often as she wants it sex — given.”

26) “She’s having so much sex it’s amazing she can still walk, but she made it up there.”

27) “Maybe they’re sex addicts.”

28) “to pay for her to have sex all the time.”

29) “she wants the rest of us to pay for her sex.”

30) “She wants all the sex that she wants all the time paid for by the rest of us.”

31) “Here this babe goes before Congress and wants thousands of dollars to pay for her sex.”

32) “a woman who is happily presenting herself as an immoral, baseless, no-purpose-to-her-life woman.”

33) “She wants all the sex in the world, whenever she wants it, all the time.”

34) “If this woman wants to have sex ten times a day for three years, fine and dandy.”

35) “to provide women from Georgetown Law unlimited, no-consequences sex.”

36) “so she can have unlimited, no-consequences sex.”

37) “You want to have all the sex you want all day long, no consequences, no responsibility for your behavior”

38) “The woman wants unlimited, no-responsibility, no-consequences sex, and she wants it with contraceptives paid for by us.”

March 2, 2012:

39) “she’s having so much sex, she can’t afford her birth control pills anymore.”

40) “she’s having so much sex, she can’t pay for it — and we should.”

41) “She’s having so much sex, she can’t afford it.”

42) “this, frankly hilarious claim that she’s having so much sex (and her buddies with her) that she can’t afford it.”

43) “And not one person says, ‘Well, did you ever think about maybe backing off the amount of sex that you have?’”

44) “Does she have more boyfriends? Ha! They’re lined up around the block.”

45) “It was Sandra Fluke who said that she was having so much sex, she can’t afford it.”

46) “By her own admission, in her own words, Sandra Fluke is having so much sex that she can’t afford it.”

47) “they’re having a lot of sex for which they need a lot of contraception.”

48) “Her sex life is active and she’s having sex so frequently that she can’t afford all the birth control pills that she needs.”

49) “who admits to having so much sex that she can’t afford it anymore.”

50) “she’s having so much sex, she can’t pay for it.”

51) “As frequently as she has sex and to not be pregnant, she’s obviously succeeding in contraception.”

52) “Ms. Fluke, asserts her right to free contraceptive, to handle her sex life — and it’s, by her own admission, quite active.” …

53) “Ms. Fluke, who bought your condoms in junior high? Who bought your condoms in the sixth grade, or your contraception?”

WHICH TWO WORDS, ASSHOLE?!

[via Balloon Juice; Media Matters]

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67 Responses to I, Too, Will Accept Rush Limbaugh’s Apology

  1. Is one of the words sex? Because I saw it so much that by entry number 32 it started looking weird, like it’s not suppose to be spelled that way.

    Still looking for the other word…

  2. thebewilderness

    The rest of the women of America and the world who use birth control do not not not accept his self serving apology.
    He is still lying. He did exactly what he has been paid to do for twenty years. Lie!
    Step away from the microphone, hatemonger. Your day is done.

  3. That was one of the most piss-poor excuses for an apology I’ve ever heard. What it really was was another opportunity to Lard Ass to continue dissing Ms. Fluke and all other women, and then blame his behavior on “libruls”.

  4. Why is he so obsessed with her sex life? I thought she was speaking on behalf of a friend. Does his insurance cover Viagra?

  5. Yeah. *I* got two words for him. The second one is “off”.

  6. My thoughts when I read his apology. “Sure, just two words. Right. Uh huh. Two words that were based on a total lie as to what she testified. Which you know, jackhole, but you’ll repeat it over and over until it becomes truth. And, it’s not your style to use ‘inappropriate language’?!? Shit, if you didn’t say anything inappropriate, you wouldn’t have anything to say at all. Sinking to the level of Dems? I call bluff. Name one prominent and influential liberal who has said half the vile things you have. No, no, no, not some random commentator on a blog or the friend of a friend of a friend – someone with your stature. I’ll give a thousand dollars to the charity of your choice if you can come up with someone!” And on and on until my head ‘asploded into a million little bits.

    The end.

  7. Preach it!!!!!!!

  8. Butbut… BILL MAHER CALLED SARAH PALIN A CUNT!!!! BOTH SIDES DO IT!!!!

    Seriously, while I agree that misogyny like Maher’s really, really needs to be pushed back, and hard… there is a difference of degree here.

  9. “In fighting them, I became like them”

    If, God forbid, I were a Rush Limbaugh follower, I would have to be brain dead to not be insulted by that ruthless manipulation. But I suppose there are fools who nodded their head and agree only liberals insult people when arguing.

  10. “Against my own instincts, against my own knowledge, against everything I know to be right and wrong, I descended to their level when I used those two words to describe Sandra Fluke. ”

    Good to know that it takes just one woman speaking out can make Rush so emotional and weak and lose control completely for 3 days straight. Maybe he should go lie down, does he feel a migraine coming on?

  11. Get over yourselves. Big frickin deal, he call her a slut. Oh my, so offensive!
    Maybe you’re upset because you identify with her predilections which would put you in the same category? You people are so smarmy it makes my skin crawl. Grow up and get life.

    • I’m sorry about your tiny impotent organ, Patrick. And by that, I mean your brain.

      As for “get a life” — how much of a “life” does one have to troll blogs defending a low-life lying sack of puke like Limbaugh?

    • Actually, I would identify with her predilections.

      Oh wait, you mean “predilections of being a slutty whoreslut who can’t keep her legs closed”. I thought you meant “predilections of a someone in need of health care”.

      But hey, I will just call you a moron and leave it at that for now, I think that is all the response that is necessary at this point.

    • That Guy With The Ponytail

      “Grow up and get life.” (sic)

      What if I prefer Newsweek?

  12. “Maybe you’re upset because you identify with her predilections which would put you in the same category? You people are so smarmy it makes my skin crawl. Grow up and get life.”

    And this illustrates the issue right here, thanks for the example, Patrick. You’re showing us what misogyny looks like very well, much appreciated.

    So this is how it works: Guys say whatever dumb ass thing that pops into their self-centered little heads, and it’s the 5th Book of the Gospel. But when women speak up with an opinion? Sluts. We have so much mindless sex we must want it all the time and we have to post it on youtube so Limbaugh can have something to watch while he tries to achieve a pointy little viagra fueled erection. Or, we’re witches, we should go fly off on our broomsticks. Yes, it’s the 1300′s in Patrick’s world.

    Margaret Atwood said it best:”Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.”

  13. It is amazing to me that so many people have already forgotten that this man went on a vacation by himself with a bottle of Viagra to the Dominican Republic, a place that is notorious for its “sex tourism” featuring young girls (and yes, I mean girls).

    Who, Rush, just who is the slut here?

  14. Professor_Zoom

    Two words? Two words! He went on a three day rant about how much sex Sandra Fluke is having, when her testimony never even mentioned sex, and wasn’t even about her. It wasn’t two words. It was character assassination. All this coming from the Pig who traveled to the Dominican Republic for sex. And as D Burrell said, with young “girls.”

    I also find this interesting. Limbaugh goes on a three day rant to destroy the character of a smart and educated woman, who was doing nothing but standing up for hers and other women’s rights. They call Michelle Obama, another well educated and intelligent woman, an angry black woman. They call Rachel Maddow, another well educated and intelligent woman, angry and has an attitude. I think it’s pretty clear that the Right just has smart woman issue, especially when smart women don’t placate to their egos.

  15. Rush and Patricia are right, and you all at ABW are morons.

  16. First allow me to state that I DO NOT defend what Limbaugh said. These are my personal observations…
    1. Is Georgetown a Jesuit university?
    2. Shouldn’t insurance be made to cover critical conditions, procedures or preventive conditions? I already hear the argument that contraception is preventive, however having sex is really an extra curricular activity. And if one is having sex 3x/day, how is any studying getting done?
    3. I trust neither conservatives or liberals. When they stop being shuttled in limos or private jets or when they appear on CNN in a sleeveless t-shirt giving an interview will I truly feel they are like me.
    4. Liberals expect conservatives to be bitter and filled with hate but I find it quite hypocritical that so called peace living, co exist liberals are filled with such visceral hate from national cable news to recall protests. I do not appreciate being yelled at or talked down to. It insults my intelligence.
    5. I march to my own orders. I am a free thinker who makes decisions that are in my best interests.

    • Simon, if you’d followed ANY of this, you would know that Fluke was testifying about a friend (a lesbian, yet) with PCOS who lost an ovary because she didn’t have financial access to BC — NOT about her sex life. I wouldn’t dream of insulting your intelligence, however, because you’ve already done that in your ignorant post here. Fluke was NOT testifying about her sex life (although there would be absolutely nothing wrong with that, either), but she nonetheless became an object of scorn and derision for a lot of sad pathetic misogynists like Limbaugh and his defenders.

      Reproductive healthcare IS intrinsic to good health. Contraception prevents pregnancy. Pregnancy contains a lot of health risks — mental and physical — and abstinence doesn’t work. (I guess Bristol Palin never heard the “aspirin between the knees” trick.)

      And we didn’t hear Viagra Sex Tourist and Oxy Addict Limbaugh complaining that Viagra is covered, whether a man is single or not, by many insurance plans.

      And many Jesuit/ Catholic institutions of higher learning already cover BC. DePaul University, for one. No one is saying TAXPAYERS have to cover BC. This is about private insurance into which employees pay a share covering a basic part of healthcare for a huge segment of the population. (Most Catholic women use contraception, you know — including Heaton.)

      But I certainly hope nobody decides to pursue any “extracurricular activities” with a non-thinker such as yourself.

    • Professor_Zoom

      “4. Liberals expect conservatives to be bitter and filled with hate but I find it quite hypocritical that so called peace living, co exist liberals are filled with such visceral hate from national cable news to recall protests. I do not appreciate being yelled at or talked down to. It insults my intelligence.”

      Let’s not go there. How many Tea Partiers were out there protesting with their vitriolic signs after Obama was in office? Was it not Glenn Beck who said that Obama has a deep seeded hatred for white people? Was it not Bill O’Riley who cut off the President 40 times during his Super Bowl interview? Sure, there were a lot of things said by liberals about Bush and you can say what comes around goes around, but before Bush conservatives were bat shit rabid about Clintons.

      It seems like when conservatives express their anger, they’re just expressing their First Amendment rights. When liberals, or anyone opposing what conservatives do, express their anger and call conservatives on their crap, they’re just angry and hostile.

      • Conservatives are “patriots” for expressing their First Amendment rights, liberals are “traitors”. Conservatives get to bring guns to their protests, liberals get pepper sprayed and get arrested.

  17. Simon – you make very reasoned arguments. Georgetown already covers birth control – for faculty. It sounds like you are unhappy with the way health insurance works. Sometimes it covers things that you don’t use. We wanted to have a discussion on changing how health insurance works, but it was demagogued and death paneled, so that couldn’t happen. Now this is the system that we have. We pay into it and sometimes things are covered that we don’t like or don’t use. Now if it’s money you’re worried about, covering contraception is a health benefit to all society, women don’t have miss work due to painful periods or heavy bleeding, men and women can plan the size of their families to be what they can afford. Costly surgery due to ovarian cancer is avoided. It’s cheaper and hugely beneficial.

    This is the system that we have, it’s not what we wanted, but it’s what we got stuck with. But if you pay into the system, you should get the medication you are prescribed, covered by the insurance company, no questions asked. I mean, I’m sure you wouldn’t like it if you went to buy a condom at a gas station and before you could buy it you were asked how many people you planned to sleep with.

    As for this:

    “Liberals expect conservatives to be bitter and filled with hate but I find it quite hypocritical that so called peace living, co exist liberals are filled with such visceral hate from national cable news to recall protests.”

    That’s how the democracy and the free market works. We hear something we don’t like, we get to speak out about it. We get to group together and stage a boycott. We’re passionate about women’s rights, and we’re showing that passion. We’re fighting for our friends, sisters, daughters and ourselves. Sorry, you find it so offensive.

  18. Hey Carol,
    I guess I’m not offended insomuch as confused as to how the stereotypical peace lovers, putting flowers in gun barrels, loving their neighbor morphed into angrily yelling above the din, stooping to the level of their enemies, dividing families and friends. Aren’t liberals above that? They profess far greater intellect than conservatives. And that should manifest itself into calm and rationale despite passion.
    By no means am I trying to upset apple carts. Just observing from disillusioned eyes recalling when we were the 100% in the days after 9/11. Most people seem to forget those images of women being beheaded by the Taliban. Thank God Americans can yell at each other without fear of having their head chopped off…
    My best to you :)

    • ” morphed into angrily yelling above the din, stooping to the level of their enemies, dividing families and friends. Aren’t liberals above that? They profess far greater intellect than conservatives. And that should manifest itself into calm and rationale despite passion.”

      Without an example, I’m not really sure how liberals are dividing friends and families, any more so than conservatives, who have gone after gays, immigrants, muslims, and now women, the next on the list. But the stage has been set and this is how the game is played now. I don’t know why you expect liberals to bring a feather pillow to a gun fight.

  19. Kerry,
    You’re right. I’m an idiot with no right to express views. I’ll just keep my independent thoughts to myself over here in the corner while you tell me how to think and what’s right. It is naive to believe everything the media has fed the public during this gravely important story. There isn’t anything else going on anyhow so we’ll keep beating this already dead horse with accusatory words and belittlement of those who do not believe what we are told to.
    My sincere best to you in spite of your hatred toward me :)

    • Please don’t get your strawman too close to open flames, dear. I assure you that you’re not important enough to warrant my hatred. In future, however, if you would like to cite FACTS in support of your argument (i.e., what super-sekrit information do you have that has been ignored by the media?), please feel free to share with the class.

      And again — you have every right to express your views. And I have every right to point out when you’re doing so in a way that ignorant of facts. Truly, there are more important things at stake these days than your ego and fee-fees.

  20. Michael K. Wilson

    Since this is the Angry Black Lady Chronicles, I’m looking at this incident in terms of race and represenation and how it effects Black people. There are two problematic layers that I feel surround notions White Privilege, Power & institutional racism. 1) The privilage Rush has to say what he wants about under represented people with no recourse. 2) What corporate America (sponsors) deem as acceptable and appropriate public discourse (who you can and who you can’t disrespect & degrade). With that there is bitter sweetness behind the hypocracy of punishing Rush Limbaugh for his comments. He has had the privilege to say dehumanizing & demoralizing comment after comment about people of color in this country without so much as a batted eye from sponsors (I attached a link to another acticle). But he makes one comment that threatens the chastity/ purity of a white woman (I say what with absolutly no ill intent towards Sandra Fluke or white women as a whole) and sponsors pull ads, he publically apologizes TWICE and his job is NOW in jeopardy? When was the last or even first time you heard Rush apologize? Its very important to highlight Rush’s apology because he specifically apologies for threatening her sexual bahavior while upholding every opinion and statement he has ever given. “Slut” and “prostitute” are direct attacks on Ms. Flukes innocence. And for Rush and corporate sponsorship to specifically deem that innappropriate says a lot about the appropriatness of all his other statements. His apology and subsequent actions ideologically harken back to notions of the Jim Crow south. Their actions clearly say: “Its okay to degrade everyone else but dont you dare disrespect the purity of a white woman!” Though people of color may not have been the focal point of Ms. Flukes statements, Rushes statemtents, the corporate sponsers or the publics reaction, it all still indirectly impacts the perceptions of people of color in this country.

    http://hypervocal.com/news/?2012/?10-outrageous-rush-limbaugh-quo?tes-that-didnt-cause-his-spons?ors-to-flee/

    • “With that there is bitter sweetness behind the hypocracy of punishing Rush Limbaugh for his comments. He has had the privilege to say dehumanizing & demoralizing comment after comment about people of color in this country without so much as a batted eye from sponsors”

      Michael, I’m a white woman, and I agree with you 110%, and I’ve been thinking the very same thing the past few days.

      People know Rush is a vile racist, yet he seems to have gotten a free pass from women and the white community and his sponsors. I don’t have an answer to that. What seems to have led up to this for me it started with John McCain putting air quotes around women’s health in the presidential debates, but I’m sure it started before. Then there’s been attacks on Planned Parenthood. Then the Komen Foundation. Then stifling of an individual woman’s voice before Congress, before the whole country. I think the conversations that have formerly been coded and veiled in “quiet rooms” have very suddenly become so visual, so ubiquitous that people could actually see, finally, what was really going on. It’s not an excuse and as a country we have fallen down on this repeatedly and to our shame.

      Congress should have just let Sandra speak. Boy did they stick their hands into a hornets nest.

      • Michael K. Wilson

        Even in the 21st Century the mentality of yesterdays “good ol boys” of always come to the forefront: elitist, homophobic, mysogynistic & racist (intentionally or unentionally)

        We clealry see this in these policy debates.

    • Limbaugh should have been shut down long ago, yes, and it does throw a bad light on race relations against the country, but keep in mind that this is not the first sexist fuckery he’s been engaged in by a long shot. He’s just crossed that particular line.

      Does it mean the line with gender/sexuality/race are in different places? Probably. Highly probable, especially when you get those lines relating to each other.

      I can’t really tell with the lines, being a white person, but one guesses that gives me the privilege of being able to think “if this is the straw that breaks the camel’s back, then let it be so”.

  21. Carol,
    Here in Wisconsin the Gubantorial recall has divided many families and friends from Facebook postings and replies to the stories I had heard from people telling me their holidays were ruined due to political discussion and discourse.

    • Lol, really? That’s too bad, but tough. It happens to everyone all the time everywhere for all reasons. People already know not to talk to their families about politics during holidays. Articles have been written about it. It’s kind of pathetic to blame liberals for that, sounds like you’re just trying to make people shut up. And here you were telling us how so very open minded independent you think you are. Guess not so much.

      • I have a friend who is a union leader who has posted a song on YouTube about wanting the Governor dead and believing he will rot in hell. He’s not very conservative…

        • Yes, you just proved my point. You ostensibly came here to ask questions about health insurance policies that quickly dissolved into your pet activity, liberal punching. You don’t have an open mind, you don’t think for yourself, you care only about 1 thing.

  22. And again, a Broderite wannabe “freethinker” (read: “dipshit”) comes to lecture us.

    First of all, this may be useful to you, although I doubt you will read it: http://preview.tinyurl.com/7oa2sj8

    1) It does not particularly matter, because:
    A) It is not their place to decide what a woman’s health needs are. That is the purview of the woman herself and any professionals she wishes to consult to that end. Not a school administrator, not a priest, not a senator.
    B) Hormonal contraception is used for multiple reasons, including actual pregnancy prevention. One of the examples Ms. Plank brought up was her friend who lost an ovary to polycystic ovary syndrome and is undergoing early menopause because of it. She’s losing her fertility because she could not afford the medication she needed without the insurance the school was supposed to provide, AFTER they denied her because they thought she was just going to use it to slut it up all over the place. This is why priests don’t get to make medical decisions for others. They are trained in myth and god-bothering, not human biological processes.

    2) Two problems with this talking point:
    A) While it is supposed to cover “critical conditions, procedures, and preventative care”, this was regularly DENIED. Women were subject to questioning as to why they needed the medication, and were routinely denied if those in charge did not believe her OR the medical professionals she consulted, which was fairly often in favor for “slatterns slutting it up” explanation.
    B) There is nothing wrong with anyone actually having sex three times a day. You can actually have sex three times a day and still do other stuff in your life. And there are very few people who could actually keep up a “three times a day” sex life for longer than a very short period of time. Seriously, these talking points? Not the hallmark of an actual freethinker. A dittohead, certainly, but not a freethinker.

    Honestly, I expect to hear about you whining about how she’s trying to “force taxpayers to pay for three times a day sex”.

    3) Irrelevant to the argument, trying to set up “I’m like one of you”.

    4) Irrelevant to the argument, trying to set up “Both sides do it”. As an aside, I expect conservatives to be selfish, easily frightened, lacking in empathy or care beyond their immediate circle and surroundings, and generally classless. Hateful and bitter are just icings on the cake when dealing with those without the brains to be actual sociopaths.

    As an aside, I am surprised you have enough intelligence toward which to make a worthwhile insult.

    5) Ahahahah. No you are not a “free thinker”, and while one would be reluctant to argue that you cannot make decisions in your best interests, I note that a lot of conservatives tend to make decisions against their best interests in favor of cheap shots, and I doubt you’ll buck the trend.

  23. “We’re fighting for our friends, sisters, daughters and ourselves. Sorry, you find it so offensive.”

    You have nothing to apologize for, Carol. :-)

  24. StarStorm,
    You sound angry. That is not the hallmark of a compassionate liberal. But it gives me a small measure of vindication. Now frankly, I really don’t care if taxpayers fund contraception. Those aren’t my decisions to make. You and Kerry have made it abundantly clear that unless I agree with you I have no right, as protected by Amendment #1, to express opinions. I am truly sorry I do not possess the same level of intellect as you. I digress… I was reluctant to express my opinions and I have been crucified (ironic). Not very peace loving, coexist or love your neighbor but words are not stones and to that end I bid adieu. I’ll try to think more like you and ultimately become a better person…
    Warmest wishes for happiness :)

    • Looks like you just came in here to be belligerent and throw a tantrum. Then you get scared and leave when the curtain is pulled back. How typical. Do you want to have an actual discussion on slut shaming or do you want to just want to keep whining?

      • Why shall I keep getting slammed because it is perceived that I am the enemy? My instincts tell me I’m a bigger person than that. It’s too nice outside to be cooped up on a computer. The birds won’t judge me. The sun knows I’m not scared. The wind on my face will reinvigorate me.
        My best to everyone in spite of your obvious disdain for me.

        • You immediately went on a liberal attack in your very first post, and now you’re playing the victim, why me, why me, why is everyone out to get me? God, you’re a sorry mess. Go clean yourself up.

          • I’ll do my best. That’s all I can do. I am by no means a victim. And I thought I made it abundantly clear that conservatives are equally guilty for this type of aggregious behavior.

            “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.”
            - Plato

    • I’m astonished that you could tell that I was angry from my reply to you. Well, astonished because I wasn’t actually angry, but was rolling my eyes in amusement at a “freethinker” throwing out dittohead talking points. More likely you were using “You sound angry” in an attempt to deflect what I had to say, as angry people clearly cannot think rationally or make good points, am I correct?

      As a point, neither Kerry Reid or I actually told you that you have no right to express opinions. On top of that, you are using the Freedom of Speech clause of the First Amendment somewhat incorrectly. Were Kerry or I government agents attempting to block your ability to express your opinion (to use this medium as an example, by blocking your internet access), you would have a salient point. As it is, both Kerry and I are commenting on this thread, and are expressing the opinions that your opinion is wrong (and I will express the opinion that you are, stated succinctly, a moron), this does not mean you do not have the right to express this opinion.

      As a note, the Free Speech clause allows you to express your opinion or ideas without government interference barring actual criminal offenses being committed, it does not mean that your opinion will be desired, welcomed, well-received, or even appropriate. It also means that it is not a violation of your rights of free speech if, for example, ABL decided to ban you or delete your comments as a proprietor of her blog.

      I do express astonishment that you feel crucified over the expressions of other opinions here, but I doubt your suffering even measures up to a fraction of a percent of actual crucifixion victims.

      All that said…

      Warmest wishes for happiness :)

      Feel free to pray for me, too, if you like.

      • My happiness is inconsequential to you all obviously. My thanks to ABL for the ability to express my opinions. Thank you all in spite of your anger towards me for helping me see the light. I hope I can be a better person thanks to your guidance…
        Pray for me obviously :(

  25. Professor_Zoom

    Simon, who said that liberals are just some happy go lucky people? I’m not attacking you, but it sounds like you have this idea that liberals are docile. I think you’re mistaking being peaceloving for being a chump. It’s one thing to want peace and civil discourse. It’s another to just stand by and take it in the ass while your rights are trampled over. Conservatives can be as rabid and as nasty as they want to be when it comes to what they believe in, but when a liberal sees the things that they hold dear in jeperody and want to fight for them, we’re splitting the country in half. We can spend billions of dollars in two countries that don’t even want us there, but the minute we liberals want to fight to keep, strengthen and improve things in this country, we’re being divisive. I don’t feel any anger towards you, but to say that you’re a free thinker, and then to say that we’re not being very liberal like because we are fighting for what we believe in, shows that you’re not much of a free thinker and that you still have a lot to learn.

  26. Sincerest and wholehearted apologies for an attempt at constructive dialogue and the perception that I’m narrow minded which I assure you I’m not. Again, my intent was merely to pose questions and point out hypocrisies that I perceive. I openly stated that conservatives are equally problematic in their tenor and behaviors as well. I did not intend to stoke the embers which continue to rear its ugly head in the divisions that tear apart the very fabric of our great nation. I am appreciativeand grateful that this site and all the people who work hard to get their message out provided me with an uncensored opportunity to express my views. I think in some measure we can all agree that we love our country and its liberties which blood has been shed since its founding. I think we can equally agree that most of our legislators have agendas which are not in line with how we live day to day. I have no fancy suits in my closet. I am not driven to my private jet in a Lincoln Town Car. I would surmise that holds true for you all as well. Again, my deepest apologies to all who think I’m a ditto head when I predicated my first comment by saying I was NOT defending Limbaugh.
    Thank you ABL and sincerest wishes for continued successes…
    My best to you all…

    • You sound sincere here, but you came across entirely rude and judgmental
      this:

      “4. Liberals expect conservatives to be bitter and filled with hate but I find it quite hypocritical that so called peace living, co exist liberals are filled with such visceral hate from national cable news to recall protests. I do not appreciate being yelled at or talked down to. It insults my intelligence.
      while expecting others to be civil to you, like here”

      You never say that conservatives are problematic, only that you don’t trust either liberals or conservatives, but you use this line to set up an argument that you make a feeble attempt to defend later. It is not in any way “pinning the blame on both parties” You don’t blame conservatives at all. You start out off the bat being belligerent and argumentative and then blame us when we argue back. Victim.

      Here:

      “StarStorm,
      You sound angry. That is not the hallmark of a compassionate liberal. ”

      How do you know? Somehow you assumed that StartStorm was angry and that somehow liberals are supposed to be doormats. We’re always supposed to be nice to you when you basically call us hypocrites off the bat? Since when?

      I started off saying you have good arguments, and tried to answer your questions but nowhere did I see you even try to be anything but snide with everyone else. It seems that was your intent the whole time.

      But I appreciate that you have the manners to come back and apologize.

    • Pinkamena, Panic Pony

      Learn to be an adult when you talk to people, minus all the passive-aggressive “I’m just trying to be constructive, why are you so angry” trolling horseshit and maybe you won’t get your ass handed to you next time.

  27. I think Simon forgot to add “I never asked to be born!” in his laundry list of self-pitying narcissistic talking points.

    And again — when you engage people on false pretenses (i.e., continuing the Limbaugh canard that Fluke’s testimony was about wanting to have sex three times a day on the government’s dime) and then presume to read their minds and psychoanalyze their emotional states, AND lecture them on how liberals SHOULD act, well — don’t expect kid-glove treatment. As I said before, the wounded fee-fees and ego of one demonstrably clueless jackass on the internet aren’t priorities for those of us who are fighting for the health and bodily integrity of ourselves and our fellow citizens.

  28. Anyone familiar with the kind of man who gets pissy during holidays and birthdays when women give most of their attention to children? And he gets even more pissy when women are busy on their own behalf? And he just goes nuts when a woman or women are busy on behalf of other women? He just can’t stop moping, and scowling, and muttering, “What about ME? What about ME? WHAT ABOUT ME?!”

    ‘mommy?’

    Pitiful.

  29. I myself have to wonder if Rush actually understands how birth control works… He does know that you have to take the same amount of pills no matter if you’re having sex once a month or three times a day, right? So this whole idea of having “so much sex you’re going broke” doesn’t even begin to make sense (let alone any argument he uses in his whole tirade).

    • He obviously thinks it works the same as the Viagra he takes on his “tourist” trips to the Dominican Republic.

  30. I don’t expect the government to buy my condoms. And I’m a liberal.

    • And Ms. Fluke didn’t expect the government to buy her or any other woman BC — just that it be covered by PRIVATE insurance into which employees and students pay.

    • Pinkamena, Panic Pony

      No you’re not. Nopony buys this concern-troll shit and you’re misinformed to boot. Now shut up while the adults are talking.

  31. This the same Rush that said Obama was a terrorist and a Muslim hoping through his hate speech someone wold knock him off

  32. First time visitor. This is a great article, ABL.

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